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Author Topic: Questions for those who believe that homosexuality is a sin?  (Read 1019 times)
halley_m
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« on: July 25, 2011, 12:14:42 PM »

I'm a christian myself, but I don't believe that being homosexual is wrong or anything like most seem to.  I realize that it says that it is an 'abomination' in the Bible, but it also says it is a sin to mix fabrics, work on the Sabbath, eat pork or shellfish, get a round haircut or a tattoo, and something about playing with the skin of a pig (football?)? It also says that a man who sleeps with another man should be put to death, but doesn't it also say the same for a woman who has lost her virginity before marriage and kids who disrespect or don't listen to their parents? If we don't pay attention to those statements anymore, then why do we pay so much attention to the ones about homosexuality? It's no longer a big deal eat shellfish, mix fabrics, lose your virginity before marraige, get a tattoo, or for kids to not mind their parents, so why are people still SO hung up on those two little statements?  The Bible was written so long ago, and many things have changed since then.  Also, mankind interpreted the Bible, and who's to say we didn't interpret some things that are in it in the wrong way? I'm sure there are many different ways to interpret some of the things in it.  Also, to some of the people who believe that homosexuality is a sin and an abonimation, whats your reasoning to believe it, besides the fact that it is in the Bible?  If the Bible didn't even mention homosexuality, would you still believe that it is wrong? and for those who think that people 'choose' to be gay, if they really did, do you think that there would be so many people who are depressed over it and kill themselves over it?

I'm sorry that that was so much to read, but I would just like to hear how of Christian and other religions people view homosexuality.  I'm not meaning to offend anyone in anyway.  We are all entitled to our own beliefs.
Mark, I'm not afraid of offending anyone, I'm just say that that is not my intention.  I truly do believe that everyone has a right to their own opinions, because no matter how much anyone else may disagree with it, it's what they believe.
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2011, 11:35:42 AM »

A ninja captured the confusing police car.
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2011, 09:04:23 PM »

Has a homo been strike down yet?Huh And there you have it, do what you wanna do ain't nothing gon happen.

Edit: You mf's are looney tune. Most of y'all are full grown adults with a fricken imaginary friend. Wow at the stupidity.
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2011, 02:33:50 PM »

I agree with most of your reasoning.  People selectively pick and choose from the Bible in order to confirm their (pre-existing) bigotry.

So why are you afraid of offending the bigots?  Do you say the same thing about people who are racist, sexist, etc. and claim their beliefs come from the Bible?  Are they entitled to their opinions as well?
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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2011, 08:45:24 AM »

It is for god to judge ,not humans, we all sin and is any sin better or worse than another?
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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2011, 09:42:17 AM »

lets go to the Book of the law BIBLE, and read what it says

Revelation 21:8
King James Version (KJV)


 8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

homosexuality is a ABOMINATION to the most high. this is Sodom
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2011, 02:32:30 AM »

@ Question...a correction

No homosexual has been struck down by God.  Many have been struck down in God's name, believing in a twisted way they were doing God's will.
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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2011, 03:09:20 PM »

You have a point.  U have pointed some things out that where a part of the old way of doing things, but Jesus fulfilled the need to do those things so we don't have to worry about those (such as mixing fabric, eating shellfish and such).
The hairdo thing, the tatooo, fornication and adultery are still wrong in God's sight, check the bible it's there.  We all try to conform the bible to our lives instead of obey what it say, I don't care what anyone wants to think:
sex before marriage: WRONG
adultery: WRONG
homosexuals, lesbians, orgies, polygamy.. etc: WRONG
tattoos: WRONG
having a child out of wedlock: WRONG
and we could go on and on.... still wrong in GOD's sight.
Just so you know not because someone professes to be a Christian means they are truly a Child of GOD!!!
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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2011, 03:50:18 AM »

New Testament scriptures that forbid homosexuality:

1 Corinthians 6:9, Revelation 21:8, 1 Corinthians 6:13, 1Corinthians 6:18, 1Corinthians 10:8, Ephestans 5:3, 1 Thessalonians 4:3, Hebrews 12:16, Hebrews 13:4, Revelation 22:15.



Homosexuals and cancer

According to a recent report, homosexual men are twice as likely to get cancer than heterosexual men -- findings that one California-based doctor says show the risks of alternate lifestyles. (See related story) Results published in the journal Cancer show that the high number of homosexual men affected by cancer may be linked to the high risk of anal cancer and HIV infection. Also, lesbian and bisexual women who have survived cancer were less healthy than heterosexual women who also survived the disease.
Dr. Andre Van Mol, a board-certified family physician of the Christian Medical & Dental Associations, decides the report affirms the fact that alternate lifestyles are dangerous. He notes that the cancers are not only AIDS-related, although homosexual men have a higher risk in getting HIV.
"In 2010 at a national conference, the Centers for Disease Control reported that men having sex with men had 44-times the rate of AIDS diagnosis as did heterosexual men, and 40 times...worse than women," Van Mol reports. "So...we're talking an extraordinary risk here."
Out of the 51,000 men surveyed, five percent of heterosexuals and 8.3 percent of homosexuals had the disease.
"I'm very much concurring with the idea that God wants to protect us from things [such as] a lifestyle of sin," the family physician notes. "And it's not that we're saying GLBT people are alone in their propensity for sin, [because] all have sinned and fallen short of God's standards [Romans 3:23]. The 'thou shalt nots' and 'thou shalls' are there to protect us and help us."
The California Health Interview survey provided the data used in the study. It shows that 7,252 women and 3,690 men were diagnosed with cancer.
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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2011, 09:16:22 AM »

God and His Word never change. It is mankind that changes, but God is not bound by our changed attitudes. I'm sure that you could find some churches with a more 'today' outlook, especially since the Church Age has been over for 23-years and Satan has been ruling in them ever since. You also don't have to go to the OT to find prohibitions against homosexuality, there are several in the New Testament. But if you really are a Christian, and I emphasize IF, you should know the differences between the Dietary Laws, the Ceremonial Laws, the Temple Laws, and the Commandments of God. God gave us the entire Bible for our good.

As for interpretation, when one compares Scripture with Scripture when searching for truth, and comes away with complete harmony, then interpretation isn't necessary, for the Bible defines itself. Homosexual acts and men who are effeminate are an abomination before God, and are sinful. But so are any sex acts outside of a first hetero marriage.
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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2011, 12:35:39 AM »

yes, yes, yes and yes homosexuality in any semtic religion is considered a major sina and an abomination before God...but does that give us the right to hate on or criticize them??..no it doesnt not by a long shot...remember we are all born of Adam, thus being born of a sinful nature...we have all sinned and fallen short...homosexuality is on of those things that instead of being taboo we as humans need to embrace it as a natural part of human nature...population control...and leave the judging up to God...

"Love thy Neighbour as thyself"...
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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2011, 04:33:08 AM »

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." (NIV).

It says OFFENDERS I am not sure of what that means. I believe it is wrong to be homosexual but I also think it is no worse than any other sin. I believe it is up to God to be their judge and not us. I think people who go around saying things like God Hates Gays, is wrong too.
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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2011, 11:03:30 PM »

Here's the thing with your argument.

The Law of Moses was meant to be a reflection of God's standards, impossible as they were to obey perfectly. God knew people couldn't perfectly obey the Law, but He wanted to show that He was willing to give legal, spiritual structure to humanity. He also knew many would earnestly attempt to follow the Law in a spirit of love and repentance while others only did so in a spirit of mere obligation.

The provision of animal sacrifices were meant as a way to ask forgiveness of sins and/ or Law violation. And again, some made sacrifices from a loving and repentant attitude. Others only did so out of obligation and routine.

Later God told the prophets that He would only accept a contrite, repentant, humble heart for forgiveness of sins...indicating the precursor of Christ and Salvation.

Christ died on the Cross as a final atonement/sacrifice for everyone's sins. Anyone who accepts Him as Savior and repents of their sins will be forgiven and reunited with God.
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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2011, 07:18:15 AM »

why do you call yourself a christian?  why even bother?  its clear you're just a feather in the wind blowing whereever the wind blows.

TV tells you its ok to live as a homosexual (there's no such thing as homosexuals by the way, just deviant sexual acts) and you start to see it as ok.

you stand for nothing.  you worship people who lead you astray.

you probably never even read a religious text if you think "man interpreted it that way".  its very clear having gay sex is wrong.  even a 2 years old can read it and tell you that.

theres a lot of things in religious texts that are unclear without knowledgeable interpretation.  this particular issue is not one of them.

but keep thinking like all the gay sheep.  it'll get you nowhere.
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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2011, 08:23:17 PM »

Look ... either you believe your bible or you don't. You are one of those wishy washy Christians who pick and choose which parts of the bible you wish to follow. There are many scriptures in the new testament that say homosexuality is a sin but I suspect you haven't ever read the bible from cover to cover.

Try this ... walk into your church and tell your fellow Christians there is nothing wrong with homosexuality and see what happens.
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